I think there's a segment of American liberalism that doesn't want to go in that confrontational economic direction, and wants to skirt away from battles over things like universal health care. And I think that's where a lot of it comes from. Even these people are very concerned about material struggles and issues,. They don't really care about these issues, they think are ephemeral kind of issues. It's not making a change, it's just making them look bad and making our culture worse.