How Do You Think You Could Evangelize the World With Abolition?

Jared: Abolition has had a big moment in the last couple of years, right? And it's interesting because the prison is often neglected and prisoners are often neglected. I think that as far as the drive to abolition like what I want abolition to be is a revolutionary movement. He says he doesn't encourage people to um to valorize or Like I'm not somebody who's like, oh, the prisoners are the perfect revolutionary subject. But they are People there that You know, often crave human connection that you can build relationships with.