The Differences Between Sobriety and Abstinence

This week, Erin and Sara sit down with Dr. Elisa Hallerman, a trauma-focused drug and alcohol counselor, author of "Soulbriety," and CEO/founder of RMA. They discuss Elisa's personal addiction story and her big career shifts, the neuroscience behind trauma, getting comfortable being uncomfortable, and more.

Executive Producers: Erin Foster, Sara Foster, and Allison Bresnick

Associate Producer: Montana McBirney

Audio Engineer: Josh Windisch

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