I was so messed up that morning. I don't know if that's what my face is like. At any moment you're many people and so that was one of them. How did he get that look out of you? Years later I saw other pictures from the same shooting. They were completely different. And then you gave a copy to your mom who put it in a frame and then you asked for it back when you took it out underneath the picture. She seemed much more charmed by the family picture than Ellen Ginsburg.
Debbie talks to poet Eileen Myles about poetry, fame, and politics.