Jennifer Lisa Vest is a scientist, philosopher, and intuitive. She holds a PhD in Indigenous Philosophy from UC Berkeley, an MA in History from Howard, and a BA in Physics from Hampshire College. Her first career was as a philosophy professor at Seattle University and the University of Central Florida. Spiritually, Vest is a Medical Intuitive, an Akashic Records reader, a certified Quantum Healing Hypnosis Technique practitioner, and a Master Reiki practitioner, and has been trained in the traditions of African American Hoodoo., Native American Sweatlodge, Jamaican Revivalism, Trinidadian Shango, and Spiritualism from community elders. Books: The Ethical Psychic: A Beginner's Guide to Healing with Integrity, Avoiding Unethical Encounters, and Using Your Gifts for Good Ancestor Count: Four Corner Poems (Philopoetics) Website: drvestmedicalintuitive.com Discussion of this interview in the BatGap Community Facebook Group Transcript and summary of this interview Interview recorded October 7, 2023. YouTube Video Chapters: 00:00:00 - Introduction to Buddha at the Gas Pump 00:05:40 - Childhood Experiences with Spirits and Mediumship 00:10:31 - Helping Stuck Souls Cross Over 00:15:33 - Simultaneous Lifetimes 00:20:35 - The Unsustainability of Society and Potential Collapse 00:25:43 - The Importance of Being of Service in Spiritual Work 00:30:36 - Indigenous Apprenticeship Programs 00:35:22 - Dangers of Pretending to be a Medicine Person 00:40:16 - Preparing for an Altered State Experience 00:44:59 - The Importance of Humility in Psychic Work 00:49:40 - Importance of Humility and Sensitivity to Client Needs 00:54:02 - Client Needs vs Practitioner's Perspective 00:58:18 - Tapping into Higher Sources 01:02:58 - The Vulnerability of Mediums 01:07:54 - Risks of Mediumship and Channeling 01:13:09 - Causes of Mental Illness in Indigenous Contexts 01:18:04 - Financial Responsibility in the Spiritual Community 01:22:57 - The Ethics of Charging for Healing Services 01:27:42 - The Harm of Brutal Honesty 01:32:28 - Ethics of Controlling Others with Magic 01:37:21 - Ethical Use of Spiritual Gifts, Misuse of Spiritual Gifts and Sexual Energy 01:42:12 - Spiritual Affair and its Consequences 01:47:01 - Assisting Spirits in Crossing Over 01:51:53 - Interference with Spirits 01:56:44 - The Phenomenon of "Walk-Ins" 02:01:31 - Choosing Teachers and Company 02:06:24 - Examining Influences and Doing Emotional Work 02:11:09 - The Harm of Inaccurate Readings and Lack of Compassion 02:15:53 - Becoming a Hollow Bone & Living a Balanced Life 02:20:43 - The Importance of Balance in Healing 02:25:41 - Exploring the Connection between Quantum Physics and Spirituality