Sodo is my favourite. Suce, very silly on val i think i have the suche preference. And franklin's, those two franklins, very good. It's very god ive. Yes, michael dell in terry blacks i like the beef rib there. But then there's lebarb barbecue, ye, la la barbecue which i think has the best brisket. I've tried the barbecue, but as i got, always have it brought to my house. The name of the podcast is, oh, it's american optimists. American optimists. So if you haven't listened to it yet, i was just listening to your interview with