Enhancing Penetration Testing Through CSPM Collaboration

This chapter explores the role of collaboration in refining cloud security assessments, focusing on the advantages of providing penetration testers with Cloud Security Posture Management (CSPM) outputs. It challenges the myth that withholding CSPM reports leads to more comprehensive testing, demonstrating that sharing this data can uncover crucial vulnerabilities and optimize resource use.

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In this episode we speak to Nick Jones, an expert in offensive cloud security and Head of Research at WithSecure to expose the biggest security gaps in cloud environments and why CNAPPs and CSPMs alone are not enough often.

How cloud pentesting differs from traditional pentesting
Why CSPMs & CNAPPs don’t tell the full cloud security story
The biggest cloud attack paths—identity, IAM users, and CI/CD
Why “misconfigurations vs vulnerabilities” is the wrong debate
How organizations should prepare for a cloud pentest

With real-world examples from red team engagements and cloud security research, Nick shares insider knowledge on how attackers target AWS, Azure, and Kubernetes environments—and what security teams can do to stop them.

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Questions asked:

(00:00) Introduction

(02:40) A bit about Nick Jones

(03:56) How has Cloud Security Evolved?

(05:52) Why do we need pentesting in Cloud Security?

(08:09) Misconfiguration vs Vulnerabilities