Introduction

The writer has written two books about the subject athing we'll be discussing to day. One was about russia, called nothing as true in everything as possible. The other one is really about the state of information war in the whole world. And i also run a research initiative at the london school of economics and at john hopkins universities which have experiments with different ways we can overcome disinformation and polerization. O Ka, so let's get into the two books. I've read both of them. But for listeners who don't know, can we cannot go through some of the main arguments? How and why did you start with russia and then with ther in?