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I've Been at BlackRock for a Decade Now, I'm a CIO
I've always been investing in different parts of fixed income. And the heritage of BlackRock was in the mortgage business. But I was, my background was in credit, but we had so many talented people in mortgages. So then I became, I became CIO then and yeah, I guess I've been doing it for over a decade now,. which is pretty unbelievable.