Speaker 1
em i, certainly, i have my phone in my pocket all the time, like a upper thigh area. I get muscle twitches there all the time. It's very strange. And then sometimes i feel like my phone is going off. I mean, i don't know, it's that kind of retention into the future of something strange, like when you take your hat off, but you feel like you're still wearing it for quite a while after you take it off. Or when you put it on, you know, it feels like you're not wearing it. It's that kind of
Speaker 2
that, i don't know, these these terms are kind of,
Speaker 1
to me, that sort of protension, retension, where you have the sort of past spilling into the present, but then you sort of have an anticipation of the future built into the present as well. It's not just the present as a kind of simple here and now. It's very complex temporally. And so you get those sorts of effects with social media, with hats, with with phantomi s and phantom rings and all that sort of stuff. It's really very interesting, i think.
Speaker 3
Ii, yet, just, i wanted to quickly add one more thing about im like, sort of trying to understand what the mind is rix, you know. I mean, we've been talking about phantom limb, and like, earlier there was like referencing of sort of, like, you know, doing brain scans, and you can see what parts of the mind are activated. And think, you know, there's a cognitive, i think he's a cognitive scientist, alvane. I remember him kind of using this analogy to say, a people who want to like over invest the brain with like, where where you can find the mind. And he's inspired by marilo ponte, by the way. And he said something like, trying to understand like what the mind is by like looking at the brain. I's kind o like trying to understand what money is by just, like looking at the molecules of a dollar billain, his point there is really just to say that, like, to understand what the mind is actually doing, like, you can't cut off, like, how it's interacting with the world, like what the world it's in, like that makes it what it is. I's like a reciprocal interaction between like, mind and world and body and all these factors. And i think similarly, like money, obviously, as this is, like, is obviously like network object or something that you can't really explain what it's doing unless you see what doing in a broader context.