Embracing Uncertainty and Making Friends with the Monster

Molly Graham is a seasoned exec, builder, and widely-read writer in tech. She joins Kelli Dragovich and Nolan Church to discuss her lessons from working on different challenges (HR,Comms, GTM, COO) in hyper-scaling companies, career building, assembling strong leadership teams, and managing the rollercoaster emotions of zero-to-one startups. If you’re looking for HR software that drives performance, check out Lattice https://www.lattice.com/hrheretics

After the interview, Nolan and Kelli discuss the uproar over whether to use LinkedIn's Open to Work badge, since Nolan was quoted in the press as being very critical of the feature and the signal it sends to hiring managers.
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KEEP UP WITH MOLLY, NOLAN, + KELLI ON LINKEDIN
Molly: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mograham/
Nolan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nolan-church/
Kelli: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kellidragovich/
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LINKS:
Molly's newsletter: https://mollyg.substack.com/
Molly's operator community: https://www.andthen.com/club-for-the-glue-people
Give Away Your Legos: https://review.firstround.com/give-away-your-legos-and-other-commandments-for-scaling-startups
Make Friends with the Monster Chewing At Your Leg: https://review.firstround.com/make-friends-with-the-monster-chewing-on-your-leg-and-other-tips-for-surviving-startups
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TIMESTAMPS:
(00:00) Episode Preview
(01:06) Introduction to this episode
(03:30) Behind Molly’s viral articles and her years at Google and Facebook
(06:15) Emotions at work
(08:39) Normalizing founder/ early team depression
(09:50) Lessons scaling at different stages
(11:00) Becoming the 9th employee at Quip
(14:20) Overnight success
(15:35) You have to pick a big problem
(19:10) Sponsors: Lattice | Continuum
(21:30) Navigating a career with a high risk appetite
(23:50) Molly’s Chamath story
(27:25) Creating opportunities by cementing relationships
(33:40) How to get teams to work well together
(37:45) Hiring great execs
(40:30) Exec tenures
(43:00) Moving faster on terminations
(49:50) What do founders want now from a CPO?
(53:10) Rapid fire: best hire, best interview question
(54:30) Kelli and Nolan on the Open to Work controversy
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Producer: Natalie Toren 
Production: Lauren Ligovich, Michelle Poreh 
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