There are different forms of pleasure that just happen to be close to each other on the scale. It's a difficult question to decide whether, i don't know, to go on a one week vacation, verses stay home and visit my sick friend. We cauld be pluralists about value and ation. And we have all these sopii things, but youknow, in the end, we have to choose whether to go to the zoo with our children or sit home and watch porn hub.