I come from the cooperative as well as the labor tradition. And a lot of the questions that you are raising are questions that you can also put to the state as well as to industry. People make this artificial distinction between public and private, when actually the interconnection and interplay between the two is what creates our economy,. Our politics at the moment disempowers people because it's a structure that was built hundreds of years ago. I have jumpers older than the internet. It's completely changed the world before them. The idea there is that all these kind of grand challenges that people talk about, inclusive growth, sustainable growth, or think of the SDGs, 17 of them, incredibly
In this two-part episode recorded in 2018, economist and author Mariana Mazzucato discusses her book, The Value of Everything, with UK Labour MP Stella Creasy. It's a wide-ranging discussion looking at how real wealth is created in our economy and how we can measure the true worth of both infrastructure and services. Mariana Mazzucato is Professor in the Economics of Innovation and Public Value at University College London.
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