I want to discuss a little bit eugenics, because you do talk about this. And I think you've got to perhaps a broader definition of eugenics than people out on the street might be used to. So just talk us through that. The relationship between artificial wounds and eugenics actually begins at that conference in Cambridge where JBS Howdy coined the word ectogenesis. It was very much developed in the context of how would we use artificial wombs for eugenics.

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