Music for Mushrooms (and the Nearly-Lost Art of Being Moved by Music) | East Forest ~ 201
Adventures Through The Mind
Are psychedelics beings or tools?
James challenges the tool metaphor; East Forest responds to animistic framing and emphasizes ceremony and skillful approach.
East Forest (Krishna-Trevor Oswalt) is a musician and documentary filmmaker exploring the intersection of music and psychedelic consciousness.
He joins us on this episode of Adventures Through The Mind to talk about what music really is and why it matters so much for our psychedelic journeys.
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Episode Breakdown
- (00:00) Opening
- (05:08) Interview begins
- (05:15) I am Loving Awareness, James' entry into East Forest
- (08:37) What is music?
- (11:22) Music as a lifeline
- (15:00) What makes the difference between "music" and "sound"
- (16:54) Beauty, music, and emotional richness
- (19:30) Humanity's lost its connection with music due to patterns of consumption over creation
- (28:14) The creative act of active listening
- (33:41) Music as a technology for psychedelic ceremony
- (37:21) Music in psychedelic space as a bridge to the non-dual for the growth of our souls
- (38:52) How psychedelics can worsen separation, ego, and division
- (42:06) Introducing Music for Mushrooms, film
- (45:50) What it feels like to be "the soundtrack" for psychedelic experiences
- (50:55) Why he started making music for mushroom experiences
- (58:40) Patreon thanks
- (1:02:49) The musician's experience when playing for a mushroom ceremony
- (1:09:15) The intelligence of the mushrooms
- (1:10:56) Psychedelics, the poly crisis, the constant background noise of dread
- (1:19:43) Reflecting on "the whole 2012 thing" in the context of AI technologies
- (1:21:35) Something is Coming
- (1:32:24) Mushroom lessons, say less
- (1:34:57) Hope and Concern for what's happening with Psychedelics globally
- (1:36:26) Music For Mushrooms, the documentary—what, and who, it's for
- (1:39:13) Outro
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