The cloister is a beautiful museum too. Wouldn't I have guessed that would be the most popular part of it? Right. That's cool. So kind of zooming out a little bit, I find the type of dev rel that you've been in really unique. Like a lot of the people I talked to as he said are more in the marketing side of dev rel. What are some of the misconceptions about developer relations that you've observed being in this specific partner capacity? Yeah. I think dev rel is more than just writing documentation. And I also think that often dev rel, it depends, but they're often seen as not the most technical.

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