Matt Owens is co-founder and Chief Design and Innovation Officer at Athletics, a brand studio based in Brooklyn, and author of the book, A Visible Distance: Craft, Creativity, and the Business of Design. A graduate of Cranbrook’s Graphic Design Program, he previously worked as an art director for Methodfive, founded a small design studio, One9nine, and self-published the Flash-experimental design quarterly Volumeone. In this conversation, Jarrett and Matt talk about the gap between graphic design education and practice, the parallels between design today and design in the 1990s, and why Flash was a transformative piece of design software. Links from this episode can be found at scratchingthesurface.fm/269-matt-owens. 
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