I don't see myself as a climate activist, I think climate activism is really important. Trying to do things ourselves gives much more credibility to our arguments. It also is part of the learning curve about how we do things differently. We will be accused every time we've been hypocrite. Some pathetic low life out there and there are plenty of them. So by standing up to be counted to some extent with their own actions, we will be in aid... But we're equipped with an assistant that's still trying to change it.

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