Kemi Badenoch has attacked both Labour and Reform for being “addicted to psychodrama”, and called recent defectors from her party “drama queens”. Tim is joined by Sir Jacob Rees-Mogg to digest the speech.

Tim also spoke to the Tory leader after she’d stepped off stage and put to her the suggestion – made by Sir Jacob on social media – that the Tories shouldn’t field a candidate in Gorton and Denton in order to leave Reform a clear path.

Elsewhere, Rees-Mogg makes the case for Shamima Begum to be allowed to return to the UK, and the Reverend Richard Coles talks to Tim and Jacob about the confirmation of new Archbishop of Canterbury, Sarah Mullally.

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