The Vagabondia in the Zone Museum was one of the first works I saw with you wasn't it blew me away because it was a space which I was familiar with and yet somehow completely re-enlivened on your film. Can you say about how you negotiate a historic space like that because you want to re-investigate and you have to find a route into doing so? Yeah I mean I think perhaps the kind of whole museum parkour in my practice has been really about looking at collections and those spaces and trying to articulate them.

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