Tom Foreman: In order to make this really the way we want it to sound, is it's an ongoing practice of having significant interactions. He says a lot of times people will come up to him and say they're thinking about becoming a coach. At which point jessica blathers for two minutes, three minutes, sometimes, i swear to you, four minutes, uninterrupted.foreman: There's nothing i can grab out of that. And at a certain point i just kind of sit back and go, my hands are off the wheel. I'm not really listening to her any more. That's the moment we all want to avoid.

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