The Role of Experts and Expertism in Chronic Illness

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Rostoufe o parcast has just written a book about scepticism and the role of experts. He says he's been very sick for years, but didn't know what was wrong with him until recently. The author became increasingly sceptical that trusting doctors is the best road to recovery. Rostoufe: "I think about the roll peace, when to trust it and when not"

Ross Douthat, a columnist for The New York Times, has long advocated for a brand of reform conservatism that stands in stark contrast to Trumpism. His latest book, The Deep Places: A Memoir of Illness and Discovery, chronicles his long struggle with Lyme disease.

In this week’s conversation, Ross Douthat and Yascha Mounk discuss why the expert consensus sometimes fails, when to listen to outsiders, and whether the failures of the establishment help to explain the rise of populism.

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