Is There a World of Opportunity for Spyware?

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Mazzetti: There's enormous opportunity around the globe for this kind of technology. He says as Israel and the Israeli government might lose some control, others enter the vacuum. "I think we're seeing a future where everyone's scrambling to get control of their own versions of these powerful tools"

“Zero-click spyware” is making it easier for governments to get their hands on individuals’ personal data. New York Times investigative reporter Mark Mazzetti says that when it comes to spyware, the United States is both an arsonist and a firefighter.

This episode was produced by Amanda Lewellyn, edited by Matt Collette, fact-checked by Laura Bullard, engineered by Efim Shapiro, and hosted by Sean Rameswaram.

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