It takes many years to build up the structure, like, let's say, protected bi clanes, that actually would be enough with ina city. And so then again, we go back to the car. I mean, it's, it's a really kind of terrible loop t that keeps occurring. But baonc, i don't see it is a lop. I see us as having hit a wall, right? Like you're just describing the wall right where we're at the point where there is no more space in cities. You can't built the way out.
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