The only real time we dip into rationality is when we want to back up, it's a post hoc argumentation. So that's kind of what happens with Gladwell. I'm trying to reading to argue with him. And I'm building my fight. Like I've had so many fictitious lunches with Mark and Gladwell where we've argued things but didn't end up agreeing on anything. If there was one person I would like to argue with, one speaker that I think is fundamentally wrong is Ken Robinson,. Unfortunately, he's dead.

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