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The Mystique of Universal
Mark Spitznigal now with Universal, which Naseem I think is still an advisor to, but Universal has become probably based on everything I've seen, the best performing hedge fund over the last 10 or 15 years. But it feels like where Naseem is very public and he's constantly going on television. Mark is much more reserved. He kind of is hanging out on his farm. And so is that just his personality or how did you read into that?