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I think there's a really valuable lesson here that nobody has your back, especially if you're allocating capital. It is all on you and every time you send a dollar out, like that's your risk. So this idea that to look at it as just an aggregate as a category I think is misleading. David Senra is my example founder's podcast. If you want to learn about being a founder, what they were like, what kind of qualities they had as people, I can't more highly recommend that podcast than anyone else.