"As someone who was born in St. Vincent's Hospital the idea of leaving New York City was like illegal," he says. "I would talk to people that lived in other cities and we would start discussing things like the cost of living in terms of what they were spending on rent, groceries." He currently owns two bars: one is a honky-tonk five-star dive bar; the other is a cocktail bar.
In recent years, well-paid and college-educated Americans have shed major cities like New York, San Francisco and Washington for places like Philadelphia or Birmingham, Ala.
Emily Badger, who writes about cities and urban policy for The Upshot at The New York Times, explains what is driving the change, and what it means for the future of the American city.
Guest: Emily Badger, a cities and urban policy correspondent for The New York Times.
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