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537. John Ramirez, CIA [ret] PART 2

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Trans Medium, Medium Type Crafts - Is That a Good Idea?

"I was not read into one particular compartment that the Department of Defense held through the Navy," he says. "And I go to UFO conferences and I had to tell CIA, it's a branch of the office of security." He writes in his security profile: "I like to study UFOs and ETs".

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