For someone who wants to write, but for them, writing is more about kind of clarifying their own thinking. One of my biggest, biggest lessons in however 10, 15 years of just writing on my own, do not write in a vacuum. It's more like an active collaborative process where it's actually you with the audience and then you're seeing what they really react to. And then that's maybe giving you some data points about what you should expand on in the future.

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