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The Importance of Gender Nonconforming Clothing
When he said transvestites, I think that was referring to both trans people and what you would classically sort of understand as a transvestite. But again, so it's just like, one of the different ways where it's like, yes, he had trans people under the umbrella of transvestite, but also he was, he was, you don't want to think he was being transphobic. He was our friend.