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This episode is special because it's old. I actually recorded this conversation two years ago in the height of 20 20, when i was preparing to teach my first class on facts bsed fictional world building. The guest has done a lot of stuff because they are very cool, actually one of my favorite thinkers. Andrea jones roy is smart, funny, flexible, strong and filled with knowledge about how people and societies work. But first, let's get to it, ok? So then i will get started with the uestions. First, so that the students can hear you say things in your own words, can you, yes, tell us who you are?" "I'm

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