The Importance of Masks

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Sally Kohn: The way you say it implies there's something like a cabal going on behind closed doors. Like, okay, let's see how many people we can get to wear a mask that we can then take it to another level to control their freedoms and take away their autonomy because we want power. I mean, this is coming from the top with the head of the CDC, Willensky in the head of NIH, Anthony Fauci," she says. "It honestly, not just a mistake, but a mistake that we should not have made"

According to conservative commentator Bethany Mandel, “the Left is waging an all-out battle on the American family, particularly the youngest members. If they can make our children miserable, lead them to question every building block of society, and rebuild their entire concept of reality, then the Left and their woke indoctrinators will consider that a victory.” She firmly believes “Our children’s lives and the survival of our families are at stake.”

In this honest conversation, Dr. Shermer disagrees with some of Mandel's conclusions, agrees with others, and pushes back against certain aspects of her worldview.

Shermer and Mandel discuss: • anecdotes vs. data about children and politics • What is a woman? What is a man? • sex and gender • woke medicine • transgender affirming care • libraries and publishers of children’s books • abortion: pro-Choice or pro-Life? • support for children: government or private?

Bethany Mandel is a columnist for Fox News and a homeschooling mother of six. She has written for the New York Times, Newsweek, Spectator, and more. Her new book is Stolen Youth: How Radicals Are Erasing Innocence and Indoctrinating a Generation.