Is There a Shifting in Mindset?

"I'm basically an engineer. But I think your journey is being quite different in that almost like a sort of waking up to, or a bit of a breakthrough," he says. "It's just that these things are iterative. So you get the experience and then you develop from it." 'These are the things that are actually driving me forward, not only from the point of view of the business and the external, but they're also drive me forward internally as well,' she adds.