Outro

In this episode, Jenna interviews Pia Nilsson, senior director of engineering at Spotify, about the company's decision to make its own AI tool to improve developer productivity.

They discuss:

• Why they built their own tool instead of using something that already exists
• How developers are using it day-to-day
• How AI is shaping developer culture at Spotify

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