Episode Twenty-Six: Debbie Zappia
Training Without Conflict Podcast
The Three Phases of Shudshun
I know we all have times where we hit the wall and it becomes interesting for us. But there is moments where you kind of at least I have to dig very deep and almost question, can I? Well, probably the most difficult phase for me is bite work because I don't do, you know, I'm not a helper. And that's how I progressed to getting him to bark and guard and do those things. So he was very, very difficult to hold together in all phases all the time. Yeah. You just have to give him a little bit of time. He's got to understand what we're asking him to do. What we're doing isn't going to go
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