There's been a lot of talk in Europe about trying to sort of replicate or compete with the IRA. Do you think they'll be able to do it? The approach has been different, but Europe has a long, long standing trajectory of having this in the agenda as a major priority. Now we can also learn in Europe, I believe, from what the US has done. It is quite technology neutral. So it's across a variety of technologies that you can get the incentive if you do the carbonize.

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