The chapter delves into the shift in societal perceptions towards pornography, from an initially open discussion without shame to later becoming a taboo subject due to the rise of internet accessibility. It touches on the correlation between addiction and shame, drawing parallels between different forms of addiction and the tendency for individuals to hide addictive behaviors. The conversation also mentions the end of the golden age of porn in 1984 and admires legendary actors like Bert Reynolds and Jackie Gleason.