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S7 Ep9: Putin’s war on Ukraine with Matthew Orr

Secrets and Spies Podcast: Current Affairs | Geopolitics | Intelligence

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What's Next for Ukraine?

I was very guilty of calling Ukraine the Ukraine. And I don't honestly know exactly where I picked it up from, but it's sort of thinking of it being a former Soviet state and all that kind of stuff. The reason for that is so in Russian, you say, not Ukraine. So you use a different preposition to refer to it. Then of course, when that came through German and eventually English, it led to this this grammatical thing where they started referring to Ukraine as a territory just like a you think of like a flat area. It's just a it's just a thing is an object essentially. Yeah. We're we're at a really key phase in the

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