
Awkward Restaurant Experiences
Eat Your Crust
Ordering Culture: Navigating Ethnic Restaurants
This chapter explores the experience of ordering food in ethnic restaurants, particularly Korean and Chinese, and the complexities of language and cultural expectations. Through personal anecdotes, the speakers reflect on connecting with their heritage and the warmth of community found in these dining experiences.
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Speaker 3
So if you go to a specific type of restaurant, then usually, I don't know if it's even true, but I feel like sometimes we're like, oh, we feel the pressure to order in that language to get better service or something. Or maybe to, like, impress the waitstaff. But I know if we go to, like, a Korean restaurant, usually I'll be the one to kind of order the food. And it's a little bit of pressure, actually, because everyone's just watching you do it. And then afterwards, people have like commentary about it. I'm like, oh, God. Whoa,
Speaker 2
wait, who has commentary about you're ordering food for them?
Speaker 3
I mean, nothing like negative, right? But usually it's like, whoa. I guess that's the commentary. That's commentary. I fear. Yeah,
Speaker 2
I noticed that Chinese restaurants here, like Katie or Mel or whoever will order in Chinese. And it's nice that they do that. But then also sometimes I never know what the dishes that we're ordering are because they're ordering in Chinese. And then I'm like, shit, if I came back without them, I would be starting from square one. I have no idea what yeah so like even when the food comes out i'm like oh like i know that's like spicy fish or like that's like what like beef stew or whatever but like i don't know like the specific items on the menu so then i'm like shit like i can't rebuild this order that's
Speaker 1
actually a really good point because i don't know about you guys, but I feel like in Chinese restaurants, sometimes, like, there's just these standard dishes. So sometimes, like, people can go in and not even look at the menu and just be like, hey, do you guys make this dish? You know, the waiter will be like, yeah, and I'll write it down for you. Like, people just, like, don't even bother searching the menu, you know? They're like, okay, these are, like, three of my favorite dishes that are usually kind of standard for Chinese restaurants. Like do you make them the menus are just like not even looked at so i think that can happen for some pretty common things like dim sum you know like some of these dishes are pretty standardized just like your typical like sit down chinese restaurant with the with the circular tables i don't even know how to like categorize that restaurant as but like the lazy
Speaker 2
susan white tablecloth restaurant yep yep usually
Speaker 1
in the morning they're dim sum and then you know like by the evening they're just like regular chinese restaurant those ones will also have these kinds of like more standardized dishes so i feel like that is maybe a unique thing to some of these Chinese restaurants. But I'm sure if you, you know, said the English name, they would know. True. Well, I could see it going like, oh, do you have this spicy fish? And he's like, yeah, we have like eight of them. That's true. He's like, can I get the Chinese identifiers? Even
Speaker 2
like, I'll like cook with Katie sometimes and she'll like get groceries from we and then i'll be like oh what's like the english name of like this vegetable so i can like go find it at like a grocery store near me if they have it she's
Speaker 1
like uh
Speaker 2
i don't actually know or even like with stuff like like like in your food that my mom will cook i'll ask like oh what's like the english name for this she's like i don't know i can't help you here i was like dude like how am i supposed to rebuild this stuff if there's
Speaker 1
no translation wait that's so true i i feel like that is definitely something i've experienced too just like pause your look at a dish or something you're like i actually have no idea what the fuck the english name is for this this
Speaker 2
one does not like it only exists in the
Speaker 1
language my secondary language it
Speaker 2
does not transcend language yeah but
Speaker 1
another thing about ordering in the language of the restaurant i've started to wonder lately like do we actually get better service when we do that at this point i'm actually thinking that we're just trying to impress the
Speaker 3
waiters yeah probably it's
Speaker 2
a good way to practice your other language that's
Speaker 3
fair too so my parents don't live in town anymore I feel like the only real Korean interaction I get to use my language is at restaurants and then it's better now because I'm like used to it and my parents don't live that far anymore but dude the first few years where my parents first moved out of town I would go to a Korean restaurant and sometimes feel like almost sad or something like oh my god like mom like every waitress is my mom every waiter is my dad which is very dramatic because I didn't have to really live that far away from them for a long time but still i was like oh my god this is my culture my forgotten culture my
Speaker 2
adopted family
Speaker 3
oh
Speaker 1
i see see in that case you're speaking korean to them maybe they felt that connection too they're like hey give my daughter out there the best soup today yeah
Speaker 2
she needs to eat they're
Speaker 3
probably like why is this girl looking up at me so wistfully but i think there's definitely some like level
Speaker 1
of pride or like impressed with yourself you're like oh yeah i just ordered that in like or Korean or whatever, right? True. The waiter's like, yeah, I got you. I guess it makes you feel more part of that community almost. I
Speaker 2
remember there was this one time I was in Florence and I was eating. I decided to go to this Indian restaurant with two of my friends. I did not know what to expect, but then the one guy working there, he basically came up to us and he was like, are you from India? I was like, no, but my parents are. He's like, you get a 10 euro discount. I was like, holy shit.
Speaker 3
Hell yeah. Damn, that's hell of
Speaker 2
a word. And the place is pretty fire. Yeah. It's really interesting because like that restaurant. So my parents had gone to Florence like maybe like six months before I was there. And then they're like, oh, when you go, like you have to try this Indian restaurant. I was like, OK, like I'm not I'm not going to go to Florence and like eat Indian food.
Speaker 3
But
Speaker 2
then it turns out that restaurant was right across the street from my apartment. So it was literally like a 10 second walk. So I was like, shit, I guess I have to go now. And it was actually really good.
Speaker 1
It paid off.
Speaker 2
Yeah. Dividends.
Today our friend Abhi joins us to chat about awkward restaurant experiences! We talk about the pressure of ordering at restaurants. We discuss our comfort levels when it comes to critiquing food or ordering wine. We chat about eyeing other people’s food and wanting to ordering the same thing!
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