Jonathan: I think it is difficult, particularly if you are like a young journalist. You need to see your job lets you down enough to let you know that it campbe or everything. A good mentor of mine told me years ago, the company can never hug you back. It's not a person. And i think there were a lot of moments, especially during the pandemic, words like, my job is not going to tuck me in at night. So, like, let your job be your job and let your life be your life.
Sam Sanders is the former host of NPR’s It’s Been a Minute. He hosts Vulture’s Into It, which launched last week.
“I don’t think I ever wanted a career where I was doing the same thing for 30 years. I think that, editorially, I had become someone who was really contemplating what kind of capital-j journalist I wanted to be, want to be, and I was questioning a lot of rules and the structure of what we think journalism is supposed to be, and I think I needed to be away from a legacy institution like NPR, at least for a spell, to work that out.”
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