Jonathan: I think it is difficult, particularly if you are like a young journalist. You need to see your job lets you down enough to let you know that it campbe or everything. A good mentor of mine told me years ago, the company can never hug you back. It's not a person. And i think there were a lot of moments, especially during the pandemic, words like, my job is not going to tuck me in at night. So, like, let your job be your job and let your life be your life.

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