I think the reason our partnership doesn't have that conflict is not because we started in such a charmed place that there's never speed bump it's because we commit to the relationship to reexamining it to understand each other. We do a quarterly off site with just the two of us every quarter and a part of that conversation is how happy are you do you put a plan in place for it I would love to understand so I can implement next one on Monday. There's no fixed time we set aside most of a day and sometimes it's two hours depending on the agenda and what we want to talk about  and sometimes it rolls over into dinner so it really depends but I

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