To be a knower, then one must have life. Today, when there is life, we know about things that existed in the past. But supposing there was life at that time, would it be able to experience that thing? Yes, still existed. We are saying that. I am not saying things came into existence because you and i saw them. I'm saying them, there's a whole universe which we do not know. Presumably only because of that you are able to say this. Why do you think that there is a whole universe in existencewhat your imaginationsomeottit? You cannot maintain such a thing exists, matain w exist. If it no, even