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Michael Ockrim: Getting America In Shape Coach

Big Questions with Cal Fussman

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Do You Feel Energetic?

No concentration on the scale more utilized in the mirror. The fitness industry, people forget it's a business and they have to monetize things that they can't really monetize a push up or a pull up. And so they need to do it in a way that has some sizzle on the stake, right? Oh, we've got this new program or this new thing. I mean, I was blown away.

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