I admire your dedication to rapid prototyping, which is really unusual in the startup world. It came out of my frustration with how much experimentation I could be using a more standard software product development playbook for the preceding number of years. The question about whether or who is building an interop layer or all these spatial software experiments will have to come from organizations that have the resources and power here. And something that I'm very curious to hear your thoughts probably after this podcast episode would be how to maintain some amount of this sort of like destabilizing open-minded, open-ended play.