Carlo: We don't have almost nothing directly by him but there's a lot of ancient literature that talk about him. He wrote a book with a title that was very fuses about nature. An aximander is all over the ancient texts that we have, Aristotle talks a lot about an aximander. So people who studied that give us a list of things that most presumably wear in his book. And especially for the history of scientific thinking which is what I think most people who wrote about him missed because as I said lack of scientific perspective.

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