I want to ask you, as we kind of get in start diving even more headlong into artificial intelligence for better or worse. What is what does the future of UX look like to you? I mean, are we should we be concerned about the robots we're inventing to destroy us one day? And what is design even the field of design look Like to you even in the immediate if not distant future? Well, that's that's a good question. I don't claim to be much of a prognosticator. But there's going to be a continuing battle between those who think that their job is to be creative and put a preface on things.

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