Bonnie: podcasting is a curiosity generator. I would say it's definitely made me smarter, for sure. And honestly, is one of the motivating factors because I learned so much. It can be in an area that I am an expert in, but I'm still finding like, oh, I found this new study or there's this new detail that I wasn't aware of. So it has impacted my outlook. But enough of me wrapping it in gone, we can also listen to Stephanie Callie, Callie Judy and she makes a wonderful podcast.