Brian merchant is the author of the one device, the secret history of the ee phone and the co editor of terra form watch worlds burn. He talks about his new book rod to nowhere: What silican valley gets wrong about the future of transportation. You can get it from versa books directly or you'll get a the e book if you also buy the physical book. If you want to support the work that goes into making show every week, go to patrion com slash deck won't save us and become a supporter.