A Lighthearted Exploration of Oats and Breakfast Culture

This episode explores Mark’s book 'Platforms to Pillars', examining the shift toward platform-driven leadership, where influence is based on followers rather than character. In contrast, biblical “pillars” create space for God’s presence and others to flourish. We discuss how pillars drive spiritual renewal by turning inspiration into lasting change, emphasising that true renewal requires not just charismatic personalities or institutions but risk-taking leaders who persevere with character over decades.